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  title info:
    title: Talking and knowing
    sub title: essays on Plato's Gorgias
  name:
    name part: Perin, Casey
    role:
      role term: creator
    role:
      role term: author.
  type of resource: text
  genre: Electronic books.
  origin info:
    place:
      place term: enk
    date issued: 2025
    issuance: monographic
  language:
    language term: eng
  physical description:
    form: remote
    extent: 1 online resource (200 pages)
  abstract: The Gorgias is one of Plato's most important and interesting dialogues. This book consists of a set of independent but interconnected essays on its philosophical riches. Casey Perin devotes two essays to each of the three major episodes within the dialogue: Socrates' successive conversations with first Gorgias, then Polus, and finally Callicles. He begins by examining Gorgias' conception of rhetoric and Socrates criticism of it, including Socrates' notorious refutation of Gorgias. Perin then turns to Socrates' curious claim that orators, like tyrants, have no real power and to the no less curious distinction he draws between wanting to do something and thinking it best to do it. Perin then offers a novel diagnosis of Socrates' failure to refute Polus' claims about the value of injustice and the disvalue of justice. The most arresting and philosophically engaging character in the dialogue, Callicles, introduces a distinction between natural and conventional norms of justice and shame. Perin offers an extended analysis of that distinction and the difficulties it creates for Callicles, and he compares Callicles' genealogy of conventional norms with Nietzsche's genealogy of Christian morality. Callicles also presents a comprehensive and compelling indictment of philosophy as the organizing activity of an adult life. Perin argues that (perhaps predictably) its force has been underappreciated by philosophers. That indictment is closely aligned with Callicles' distinctive conception of the superior human being. Perin claims that so conceived the superior person is not the crude because indiscriminate satisfier of a maximum number of maximally strong desires, but someone who exemplifies a non-conventional form of discipline and self-control. The book closes with an extended argument against reading Plato's dialogues with the goal of discovering what he thinks. Instead, Perin suggests, we should read Plato as doing in the dialogues what we do when we read them, namely, engag…
  note: Casey Perin.
  note: Includes bibliographical references and index.
  subject:
    name:
      name part: Plato
  subject:
    title info:
      title: Gorgias (Plato)
  subject:
    topic: Ancient & Classical
  subject:
    topic: History & Surveys
  subject:
    topic: PHILOSOPHY
  subject:
    topic: Epistemology
  subject:
    topic: History of philosophy, philosophical traditions
  subject:
    topic: Philosophy
  classification: B371
  classification: 184
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    title info:
      title: Talking and knowing
    name:
      name part: Perin, Casey.
    origin info:
      publisher: Oxford : Oxford University Press, 2025
    identifier: (OCoLC)1510200308
  identifier: 9780198958529
  identifier: 0198958528
  identifier: 9780198958512
  identifier: 019895851X
  identifier: 9780198958543
  identifier: 0198958544
  identifier: http://proxy.library.tamu.edu/login
  record info:
    record content source: N$T
    record creation date: 250821
    record change date: 20260319210531.8
    record identifier: in00005728802
    language of cataloging:
      language term: eng